Let's Talk Hemp Environmental Benefits at the Asia International Hemp Expo Welcome back to the Let's Talk Hemp podcast! In this special episode, we are broadcasting live from the final day of the third annual Asia International Hemp Expo. Over the past four days, we've had the pleasure of engaging with industry experts, discussing the latest updates, and exploring the future of hemp.
Welcome back to the Let's Talk Hemp podcast! In this special episode, we are broadcasting live from the final day of the third annual Asia International Hemp Expo. Over the past four days, we've had the pleasure of engaging with industry experts, discussing the latest updates, and exploring the future of hemp.
Paul Iglesia highlighted the numerous environmental benefits of growing industrial hemp, including its role in crop rotation, water usage, and soil health. He emphasized that hemp is a low-maintenance crop that can be easily integrated into existing farming practices without jeopardizing financial stability.
Carbon Credits and Regenerative Agriculture: Paul also discussed how hemp can sequester carbon, making it a valuable crop for carbon credits. He explained the potential for farmers to earn additional income through carbon markets by adopting regenerative agriculture practices.
Dr. Korakot Aromdee shared insights into how hemp is being used in design and handicrafts. His team has been creating furniture and decorative items using hemp, which not only supports local craftsmen but also promotes sustainable practices. He emphasized the health benefits for craftsmen and the economic opportunities for local communities.
A significant part of the discussion focused on the importance of education and community involvement in the hemp industry. The guests and moderator agreed that educating the public about the benefits of hemp is crucial for its acceptance and growth. This includes dispelling myths and highlighting its various applications, from construction materials to nutritional products.
The episode concluded with a Q&A session where audience members asked about the relationship between hemp and bamboo, the potential for hemp in the Philippines, and the importance of education in promoting hemp. The guests provided detailed answers, emphasizing the complementary nature of hemp and bamboo in construction and the promising future of hemp in various industries.
As we wrap up this episode and the Asia International Hemp Expo, I want to extend my gratitude to our guests, Dr. Korakot Aromdee and Paul Iglesia, for their invaluable insights. A special thanks to our moderator, Didi, and to all the organizers and participants who made this event a success. Remember, we have only one planet, and hemp offers a sustainable path forward.
TIMESTAMP
00:00:00 - Introduction and Welcome
00:00:36 - Overview of the Asia International Hemp Expo
00:01:07 - Industry Networking and Updates
00:01:28 - Environmental and Sustainability Topics
00:01:51 - Show Sponsor Acknowledgment
00:02:05 - Introduction of Guests
00:02:28 - Benefits of Growing Industrial Hemp
00:03:06 - Crop Rotation and Soil Health
00:04:32 - Water Usage and Inputs for Hemp
00:05:30 - Challenges and Market Demand for Hemp
00:06:00 - Pre-Reserved Crops and Market Demand
00:06:54 - Regulations and Global Perspectives
00:07:07 - Design and Decorative Uses of Hemp
00:08:53 - Introduction to Carbon Credits
00:11:27 - Regenerative Agriculture and Carbon Markets
00:13:59 - Carbon Credit Methodologies
00:16:06 - Resources for Learning About Carbon Credits
00:19:06 - Construction Materials and Carbon Sequestration
00:22:10 - Design and Handicraft with Hemp
00:24:57 - Community and Economic Benefits
00:25:54 - Audience Q&A: Education and Awareness
00:30:55 - Commendation for Thai Industrial Hemp Trade Association
00:31:22 - Audience Q&A: Bamboo vs. Hemp
00:37:29 - Audience Q&A: Hemp Policies in the Philippines
00:39:43 - Closing Remarks and Summary
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Welcome back, my friends, to the show that never ends. I'm glad you could attend. Again, you are listening to the Let's Talk Hemp podcast. I am your host, Morris Beagle. Welcome to the show.
undefined: Well, hello, hello, and welcome, everyone. How are we doing today? Great. Well, I want to thank all of you for joining us here on the final day, day four of the third annual Asia International Hemp Expo. It's been a wonderful expo, wonderful conference, great speakers, great content, amazing organization by all the parties involved, the Thai Industrial Hemp Trade Association, How are you doing Didi?
: Yeah, it's been great for the four days that we've been arranging and gathering all the people in the industry to see each other and get to know what is the update, what is the progress and how everyone can build up the industry together. And so today, this is the fourth day already for the podcast with you, Maurice. And today with the topic that is, I think it's very, very interesting, environmental and the sustainability, right, that we are going to talk about.
undefined: benefits of hemp. So, and there are many, and we'll talk about products, we'll talk about farming, we'll talk about climate and carbon credits and so forth. I do want to give a shout out to our show sponsor that does Let's Talk Hemp, that is Her Many Voices, hermanyvoices.org, where indigenous wisdom and grassroots activism can help all of Earth's children.
: Wow. Wow. That's fantastic. And today we have a lovely guest joining us. And they are the two that also give us the great support in driving the industry and build up the industry.
undefined: Yeah. Well, we'll start with Paul here. Why don't you kind of explain some of the in the field benefits of growing industrial hemp crop rotation, water usage? And let's start there.
undefined: Yeah, um, we, we always like ask us why, why do you always push hemp? And every time I've been doing some research and trying to find actually an answer of why shouldn't we do hemp? Um, I can't find it. I always end up back to hemp and trying to just, just, um, actually there's so many benefits that all go together. It's hard to, to make a small list, but, uh, when you talk about rotational crops, One of the arguments we have for farmers is if they actually grow hemp in a specific season, let's say in Europe it's going to be between March and June or July something, This is not a crop that is going to endanger their financial benefits and that's going to endanger the other crops that they are growing throughout the year. So we see them in winter growing canola and then having a bit of rest for the soil. growing hemp and then growing wheat in the summer or late summer, those crops actually do pretty well together. It means that their roots are going at different depths into the soil, so they will go into different nutrition areas of the soil and each of them as they feed from the soil and then send back some nutrition, this nutrition will be beneficial for the other crops. So hemp is not, because there are other crops, let's say bamboo, bamboo grows very fast, but bamboo has a root network that's a nightmare for farmers and even for gardeners. Yeah, it grows very fast and on the sides and actually make the soil more poor into some of the nutrition that's beneficial for others. And bamboo drinks a lot of water. So for hemp, there's a need of water, sometimes additional water from the rainwater by the farmer in the beginning of the growth. But afterwards, farmers just let it grow with the rainwater, a bit of sunshine, and there's no other How did you call it? Entrants?
undefined: Inputs. Inputs, yeah. So fertilizers and pesticides. I mean, some of that exists, obviously, depending on where it is.
undefined: Some exist, and we are talking about industrial hemp, so some of the The hemp for outdoor growing, when you talk about pests and molds and all of these, there are topics about this, but for indoor growing or greenhouse growing, for hemp, if it's in a natural environment and also you do regenerative agriculture, so you're really taking care of the soil and the pests actually that's in your field and so on. It is beneficial and it is somehow cheap to grow or it doesn't cost so much to start growing hemp.
: Wow. So it sounds like hemp could be the solution to grow hemp instead of like if you if you know what the season is right and you can plan work around throughout the year and then introduce hemp to the farmers to do this.
undefined: It's easy to integrate hemp for farmers who have the tools and the field already and are harvesting and growing other crops. So it's not a very difficult crop to enter in your management of the farm. The only issue today is, will the farmers have security of finding buyers for this? But we're seeing in Europe and also in Asia, there's all of the crops are pre-reserved. They don't just grow hemp and be like, oh, maybe somebody's going to buy. So there is demand. I was talking also to Lorenza from EIHA in Europe. She says we have so much demand of people needing tons and tons of fiber or just raw materials from hemp. and we can't find it. So if regulations go a bit easier on these farmers and there is more help, at the moment it's difficult in Europe because they need to grow specific crops, specific seeds. and types of hemp, but if they open up the regulations to growing more different kinds of hemp and if we look into Asia or Africa, I think the barrier of entry is very low and the benefit for the farmer and the environment is great.
: Right, right. That is very, very interesting. So that's the aspect from Mr. Paul toward industrial hemp, that it can be really good for the environmental. And now let's hear more from Dr. Koragut because he's been using, introducing hemp into his designing decorative items right now. Let's hear from this industry sector that how they introduce HEM into the decoration items.
undefined: Yes, for me, I'm design and handicraft. And my, our team in the DNO, our booth at the A01, our team design about the HEM. This is the first time for us and we The first step, we make about the handicraft and furniture and decorative items for the hotel and hospital, coffee shop and restaurant. But now we make about the hem and make work with about hem tie also. I think this is for the opportunity from make maybe about the mandate from my local people. I think this is opportunity for another market.
: So you found that it's an opportunity for this market sector for like designing items but using hemp to evolve with and so at the same time it can help the farmers. Yes. Wow, that is great. What do you think, Maurice?
undefined: Well, yeah, that's another use for hemp, another offtake for a buyer. And for most, I'm sure nobody here has seen the design work that he is doing with furniture and so forth, but it is absolutely amazing. You should give your your Instagram handle and take a look at what he's doing, because I just took a look at it for the first time and I was just totally blown away. It's really, really amazing. Thank you.
: And you think introducing this new raw material in both the normal traditional that you've been working with, with the decorative items, how do you find it?
undefined: The first step, I work with my… professor in university and we develop about the product which about the local craftsmanship and that time I know them. When I went to the another fair in Paris and Milan and another country, we learn about the trend and about the lifestyle and culture everywhere. When we come back, and have some project from another country. We can work together with the local and farmer and about the craftsmanship to make something for us. And we apply about our skill and our material for another country also because We have one lifestyle in my country, but we can make everything for another country by our skill. In Thailand, we have craftsmanship, have skill and material, many material we can be together and adapt about the proportion and lifestyle for another country.
: So it is an opportunity that Thailand can be working on with hemp into the decorative item sector and be able to connect with other countries in the world. So it's expanding into the industrial level.
undefined: Right. And there's some of that stuff that's here on the floor as well. Some of the decorative uses of hemp in a couple of these booths, which is really cool. Very nice.
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undefined: Let's move on and talk a little bit about regenerative agriculture and how hemp can work for sequestering carbon and then entering into the carbon markets where farmers can start to make a little bit more money on the back end from growing industrial hemp. You want to talk about that, Paul?
undefined: Yeah. When we're trying to Engage farmers and new farmers to grow hemp their concern is always like who's got the money up front. So if the state is not helping out the farmers or the Common Agriculture Pact in Europe, it's difficult for farmers to just engage in that. But now with the new schemes of carbon credits, we're able to say, OK, with even being very cautious, we're able to say to farmers, look for each hectare of hemp that you're going to plant. We can securely say that with these regenerative agriculture principles, you're able to store at least two tons of carbon in the soil. So I'm not talking about the soil. In the soil, for each hectare, you have about two tons of carbon that is captured every year or every crop. If you do it twice a year, you're going to have four tons every year. And there are schemes now where they are trying to sell those carbon credits on the market and the dominating way right now is saying 70% of the money of those carbon credits goes back to the farmer. So it's an incentive for farmer. And if the farmer is also very close to you, let's say, and you are in the same village or same community, this money can remain in the community and go into investment for handicraft or for whatever, pressing your seeds into oil and so on. So Carbon credits is not going to save the world and hopefully at some point we won't need them. But at the moment it's a good way to bring some money from the market and redistributing it into our farmers or into the community.
: Right. Talking about the carbon credit is another aspect that is really important right now, and I think HEM can be introduced as a carbon credit capture. Not a lot of people may understand about this much, and Paul has been explaining on the last three days, right, about the carbon credit from HEM.
undefined: Yeah, well, that's why we had Paul join us on this conversation, because Paul is one of the really the top guys in the world who's been working on this and talking about it and studying it. So thanks for illuminating that information, that knowledge, not only here at the Expo, but in all the work that you're doing around the world.
: Right, yeah, because carbon credit, a lot of people may have the idea or perception that it can capture from like the longevity plants, like you plant it long time, it have been, have to be under the soil all the way that you can calculate it, but actually hemp is a short cycle period of plant, but it been able to capture the carbon credit, right?
undefined: That's why we, also it's one of the arguments we always say, hemp dies anyway after we have planted it. So why not harvest it? And that's what humans have been doing. We harvest it before it dies and we use it throughout time. We've been using it in so many areas. Yeah, it's a great crop. It does grow fast because it leaves very shortly. It grows in many different areas of the world. It can grow in some kind of dry areas or on some poor soil. So it can be used also for making the soil a bit richer and cleaning a bit of the soil. So, yeah, it's a great crop. Many crops are also involved in the agriculture side of carbon credits. but regulations vary in many countries. I was talking to one of our Japanese colleagues earlier, and he says in Japan the agriculture is not yet accepted for carbon credits, so they do forestry or they do some technology like catching the carbon from the atmosphere. But they are working on introducing those regulations for hemp and agriculture in general. I think there's good future for that, yeah.
: Right. And can you introduce us a little bit that if they would like to learn more about capture the carbon credit from him, are there any source or anywhere or what is the criteria or things like that where else we can go into deep information?
undefined: Well, it's easy to find online. If you type hemp carbon credit, you're going to find out, okay, first of all, let's say carboncredit.com is going to explain you the current state of what they believe hemp can do and how much it can capture. Then if you go on the VERA website, V-E-R-A, which is one of the biggest Well, they sell carbon credits and they also certify so I wouldn't trust everything they're doing but there is a few papers that are submitted by different hemp carbon projects throughout the world and notably there is one in Canada where for the past three or four years they've been explaining on their paper to Vera like how they're doing their agriculture, how much they're calculating, how much carbon there is in the soil before and after the crop. So if this methodology gets, it's under verification by VERA, but if it gets accepted, it's kind of open source and it's out there, we could send this to every farmer globally and say, if you follow at least these first steps, you might get accepted or here's the benchmark for the future. This is only for soil carbon capture. I'm not even talking about what happens above the soil. There's two directions now. It's keeping this into your buildings, so drying your hemp shives and the wood and so on, and capturing this into building construction material. Or the other way is just getting your seeds from your hemp and then all of the rest of the biomass, just carbonize it, make it into biochar. And this is, let's say, carbon in its pure form. Put this back in the soil, And this can even maybe add up to the amount of tons of carbon you have in your fields. Right. So there's many methodologies out there. I would say it's still quite young. So even myself, I'm not jumping too quickly to make a methodology or to say this or that project is great, but it's moving. And and hopefully within the next two or three years, we're going to see unification of all of those farmers globally, say we have tens or hundreds of thousands of hectares and here's a standardized hemp carbon credit that every country can accept and the markets of carbon credit also will buy, actually.
: Wow, looking forward to that, and I believe that it's going to be in the very, very near future.
undefined: Thing that you can google there's a website. It's called hemp carbon standard It's a group that's out of the UK who put together a lot of really good information on their website and their methodologies and They they do have a lot of information. So if you're interested in checking out, you know and going down the rabbit hole That would be a good place to to look at as well, right and you had mentioned Construction materials and so forth. So, you know talking about the environmental benefits, you know after it's been grown and it's leaving the field, it's going into market, some downstream products with construction materials and composites and bioplastics. How do you see or what would you say would be some advice to the industry to start introducing these type of products to the greater marketplace?
undefined: If it comes on the carbon sequestration perspective, I think the buildings and the construction material is at the moment the best candidate for being eligible for carbon credits, because if you're building a house, usually you're aiming for 20, 50 or maybe 100 years. But if we keep track of all of those materials, let's say a fashion company is getting hemp into their material and they make sure and they will be required by regulations to know what happens with their clothes after they have sold it to the end user or what the end user is going to do about it and not just dump it in the landfill. Then we can have a whole life cycle monitoring of where the hemp is going And we could claim some, let's say, lower quality credits, but we say, look, this is captured. And for him, for example, his beautiful installations, if you make it in a museum, it's going to stay for years. So you can claim that this is positive for the environment. You're not just burning stuff or discarding it. You keep track of it. It's not many tons, but if we start to scale up, you say bioplastics, if all of the chairs of this exhibition or the stadiums globally and whatsoever are made of bioplastic, these are captured and will stay here for a while. And if we want to get rid of them, we know how to recycle them and this will come from a bio source, will not be from fossil fuel or virgin plastics that are very expensive for the environment.
: Right, right. Wow, this is a good method and we start to see how it flows, you know. And you're talking about the downstream for like the product side. So let's hear more a little bit from Dr. Korakut that for the products and like the work that he's been created and you introduced him in, what is the value that you found from introducing him into the products that you've been designing?
undefined: Yes, when they decide about the product and they work with the local craftsmen. The value is the first step, the healthiness of a craftsman. And when we have a work for another country, we don't use about the machine and we don't use about the chemical. We use only natural. About my device, only the cutter and about the rope with the white ball. I think this is for the healthy. This is the first step of the value. And the next, we can adapt about the local material and for design, apply everything for the lifestyle for another country. I think the about the money for the local. This is important for the family. Send every student, every kid to school. They have about the graduation education. Right. When I think In my associate in DNO, I think we want everybody in the local have an education. This is the one way for the poor in my country. I think this is the better for… the design product, we have skill, we can help people in my country. And they can learn.
: Yes. Thank you. So, actually, when you introduce him into this line of work of the products, so it actually at the same time, helping the community, helping the local, especially the farmers, to be able to earn more and so they be able to support their family, send the kids to school and start as a loop of getting to learn education will be there and the lifestyle of the farmer will be better because they earn more when they do hemp. So thank you for this sector that have been looking at hemp and use hemp as one of the raw material in their work.
undefined: Right. And that's also just a starting point for conversation in the community of hemp's doing this, but it can also do all these other things from a nutritional standpoint with the hemp seeds and why we should be incorporating that into our diet. And it's also. you know, a good feed for pets and animals, and then which leads to also the compounds like CBD and supplements and so forth, and just general health and wellness. So it's a good starting point for conversation by just doing the design and the artisan artwork type stuff.
: Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
undefined: So why don't we open up the floor to some questions? Does anybody have any questions? Somebody's got to. We didn't answer everything.
: Any questions? Please raise your hand. Young lady in the back.
undefined: We'll have a microphone for you over there in just a second. So, why did Hemp break up with marijuana? Anybody know? Marijuana was a bit high-maintenance.
: I got one laugh.
undefined: That's better than zero.
: Okay, so please, the question.
undefined: So thank you for the opportunity and also the podcast for today. About the environment, what are the benefits? useful for all of us. So I have comment for the education, especially for Thai community. So because for the Thai community, we just start. since we unblocked for the hemp and cannabis for the education and information. So in my opinion, I would like to share that it would be more important now for us because in the past, we would know that the hemp and cannabis, it's a kind of a dangerous thing, we can't touch it. But now it's now a kind of a We getting well know that is also awful to the, sorry, it's not only the thing that we can't touch because it's kind of drugs. But as of now, I agree with the previous speaker that concern about the education. I also agree that we can get the, we can get them to know about the useful of the communist and help. And as the organization, both of, government and also the private company and also the business owner, we can share about the knowledge, especially for the hemp and the cannabis. And technically, after medical or something like that, it's a kind of the good start for this point. So in Thailand, we kind of something of rules and regulations about this one, but okay we can begin to spread the kind of information we are the platform we are now using. So I think about that the environment and also it's also important because I heard about for the cannabis can also help the environment. It's a good point of this one. It's another thing we can share about how can the enemies and the hemp can help the environment, especially for the waste zero, zero waste from the manufacturing that we get the part of the hemp and the cannabis. So we can share about more knowledge. It would be great that can be re-opened the opportunity to do other business that we can get the benefits of this. And this is a kind of big opportunity to make the hemp and cannabis business to grow up. But anyway, we can lead them to know the Thank you very much for the opinion because I think that she's right. The education and getting people to understand is very, very important.
undefined: It is, and I'd like to commend the Thai Industrial Hemp Trade Association with doing events like this, and then also going out and talking to a variety of industries and making MOUs, memorandums of understanding, with the automotive industry and the construction industry and on and on and on. And I think you probably got like 12, 15, however many industries you've approached. And you are educating these industries on all the things that HEMP can do and and how can HEMP apply to that specific industry. So It's happening and this is an ongoing process and it's going to continue and it's going to continue as we learn more and we grow more and what are the different applications and how is innovation going to play into that. But I do want to commend you for doing that and approaching these industries and educating them.
: Yeah, we are trying to support as much as we can and also bring in all the sectors, because as we know, hemp can be connected to all the sectors around our life, you know, in all the industries. So this is our mission from the association to be approached to all the sectors. Yeah. So any other questions? Yeah, right in front.
undefined: Hi, thank you again for all the information. I think someone mentioned bamboo in this discussion, and I wanted to understand whether hemp and bamboo are complementary or competing crops for construction, even for apparel and other products.
undefined: Yes, for me, about the design for the building with the bamboo and the rope. About hem, I think cannot too strong for the tie and knot, because when we use about that, only about the decorate is okay, because the bamboo is good for the structure, but the bamboo can use a long time. in under the roof top because if about the bamboo go inside or go put outside about the sunshine and the rain and will destroy about the bamboo it's not long time if bamboo inside have a roof it's long time maybe around 50 years go up and can use about the hemp rope for decorate. I think it's good. But about the environment, sometimes when the building of the bamboo on the mountain have many moist, right? Have many about the water in the atmosphere. I think that it can make the hemp look like the moist maybe about the Maybe that's it. Look like the color is maybe dark, dark color. I think about the bamboo and hem can use together. But with about the design, we can mix together for use the daily life for me and for you.
: So what he mentioned is about the duration that compare bamboo and hemp. Hemp is more durable for sure. But bamboo, if using interior, indoor, it can last long. But the benefit of hemp, hemp can be used both indoor and outdoor.
undefined: You mentioned two things. One is about as a crop, I think, From what I understood, bamboo and hemp, they can grow in the same area, but they are not rotational crops. I think bamboo needs to grow all year long and has a life cycle of at least six to eight months. So you can't grow bamboo and hemp on the same soil. And also on the root system, they will have competition. And when it comes to clothing and apparel and such, I think hemp should not be used for, well today you have, what's their name, Ryan and Tencel, Lansing, all of those man-made fibers. These are about, they started with bamboo and eucalyptus, I think. They have a circular system and a very efficient system of extracting, I think it's cellulose and maybe lignin from those natural materials. Bamboo is way more efficient into doing that, because you can get a lot of cellulose from a bamboo crop. But my issue with this is that environmentally, if you actually throw those man-made fibers into a landfill, it's basically plastic, right? So it's a bioplastic. It's a man-made fiber. But it's just like nylon in the end. So for hemp to be used in apparel, better the ancient way of like a very mechanical way of doing this or like combing like you would do for linen and that's what most people are doing. Where we are lucky is that there's been such a blackout for many years because of marijuana and that we could not grow hemp basically throughout the world except China continue to grow or India whatsoever. There hasn't been a huge investment into machinery over the years and today we're able to get very precise and very efficient machinery to do mechanical stuff. that we couldn't do before. So we're lucky to have this blackout so that today it's kind of like, let's say, China did not go through the computer era. They jumped straight to the mobile phones. Africa, they don't go through the credit card era. They jump straight to like mobile payment and such. So for hemp there's amazing investment being done in smaller factories that can be very efficient near different growing areas. And that's the way I would see hemp as being efficient for apparel. Not going into man-made fiber and just being grown for cellulose. You can get cellulose out of other efficient crops.
undefined: And I would say that hemp and bamboo are pretty complementary in the natural building sector. So, yeah, not competitive in that way, but bamboo is obviously a great natural building material as well.
undefined: Thank you so much.
: Are there any other questions?
undefined: Going once, going twice, going thrice. Oh, do you have a question? Here we go. One more.
undefined: Hi, good afternoon. I'm actually from the Philippines and I'm just asking you, what do you think about the innovation there and about the government policies? Innovation? In the Philippines, how do you see the Philippines?
: How do we see the Philippines for the policy?
undefined: Well, I'm unfamiliar with really what's going on in the Philippines personally, so I can't really speak to that. Can you speak to that, Paul?
undefined: I heard it's moving faster than Indonesia, but I don't have details.
: I understand a little bit from the Philippines that have been… I'm actually half Filipino, by the way. So I got some news and some update along the way for the last one year that they've been legalized for the medical purpose that they're aiming for. and they try to pass the bill and so decriminalize, right? And it been in the stage of federal, right? And it gonna launch soon. So it will be for medical purpose first, that what I understand, yeah. But one thing that I would like to share the opinion towards Philippines because I kind of know that Philippines have been They have the Manila hemp for a long time, a long period of time. And I think that for industrial hemp to be introduced into the Philippines would be a great idea. Because Manila hemp serves a purpose quite similar to the industrial hemp. So maybe hemp, it's been grown, I believe that it's been grown in the country for so long, but maybe as you're Filipino, maybe you can introduce this aspect to your government to consider more into the industrial hemp side as well, together with the medical cannabis. That's how I feel.
undefined: Yeah? I'd agree. I think we're about out of time here. You got a session coming up right after this. So I'd like to thank everybody for joining us again. Again, this is day four of the Asia International Hemp Expo. We got to talk about fiber. We got to talk about grain. We got to talk about cannabinoids. And today we got to talk about the environment, which we've only got one environment. We've got one planet and we got to do everything we can collectively to protect that. So thank you very much.
: Thank you.
undefined: So, ladies and gentlemen, that was our last live session of Let's Talk Hemp, the topic of hemp environment and sustainability of the day. As you know, today is the last day of Asia International Hemp Expo and Forum 2024. First and foremost, we want to say thank you to Mr. Morris Beagle, president of WAFDA, LLC USA. I want to say thank you to Dr. Gorakot Aromdy, creative director of Gorakot International, Focus on Hemp for Sustained Design. objects. And also, we want to say thank you to Mr. Paul Iglesia, founder and CEO of Global Hemp Service France, GHS. And also, again, we want to say thank you to our wonderful moderator, Kundidi, Vice President, Thai Industrial Hemp Trade Association.